Thanks for that info Skybuster. It saves me the 2 hr ride and gas for sure. I do have a decent honey hole down my way that I am gonna give a shot anyhow. I cut a couple tracks the other day there, one of them a real good set. Hes got some weight to him as his walking track is splayed wide open and sunk into the ground a good bit. I also jumped a 7 or 8 pointer around 180 -185 lbs but made a mistake and didnt get a 2nd chance. Im more then likely gonna focus on that area rather then head to bingham this year.