I jsut bought the RCBS Rock Chucker kit from cabelas for $289 they have a promotion going on now for free shipping but because of its weight you will still have a little shipping cause of the heavy package...this kit comes with just about everything other than dies,powder and bullets....its got a great manual with it...good press and scale as well as some other odds and ends....i really like the kit so far. you will end up getting more stuff as you get into it more such as more than one tumbler and so on...i have another smaller single stage press where all of the depriming and sizing goes on but and the bullet seating gets done on the Rock Chucker...jsut makes things go a little quicker for me