Im pretty much tagged out now so I havent been in the woods for about a week ,but I was seeing serious chasing in rockland and orange co.s since oct 25th, and not just by young bucks. I aged my oct 27th buck at 3.5 yo by its jaw bone, and he was hounding a doe pretty hard when I shot him, and the doe didnt seem to want to get away too much either. This was around 8:15am and it was raining. everyone I know is seeing and taking good bucks as well. good luck guys.