Thanks Kid. It sure won't hurt to try 'em. This is my second trip. I passed on a decent sized buck...by Delaware standards...last year on opening day, then seen a shooter the following day over 200 years away in the neighbors field. I had a grunt call, but he never responded and ended up following a couple does in the opposite direction. I was just wondering what he would had done if I had the horns. I hope to find out in a few weeks. Good luck to you.