"well todays hunting AR's are far from "assault rifles", but that is a typical uneducated response from someone who knows nothing about them or they're capabilities. The only way AR's differ from the remington semi-auto centerfire rifles are they're appearance and they shoot better than most bolt guns."

Really? I guess 3-gun matches don't count? The AK-47 and the AR-15 WERE NOT designed as hunting rifles.

"The rifles being discussed are not capable of firing full automatic. These are semi-automatic sporters. As a group, we need to learn not to use inappropriate labels.
I have no use for these rifles, but people have the right to use them and that right should be defended by all"

Because two people own weapons does not necessitate a group or "we".

Zumbo was probably right.