Originally Posted by
Ridge Runner
This is not always correct, I've saw poorly hit deer fall down flopping from what looked like a flesh wound. I shot a doe once with 11 witnesses at 585 yards, an extra 6mph breeze up higher on the ridge moved poi from poa about 12", she was hit behind the ribs bullet hit hide in, hide out just under the spine, she fell over kicked a couple times and that was it, the guy who butchered it told me, he had no idea what killed her.
If shock doesn't help kill game why is it you have way more DRT deer using a fast lighter bullet from the 25/06 or one of the 6mm's than you do with the standard 270's and 30/06's, you can say it isn't so but I've saw hundreds shot and these are the results I've seen.
flesh is 70% water, water moves with the impact, it makes stuff happen like the blood goes backwards through the major arteries, and the shockwave hits the spinal cord and travels upwards to the brainstem, overwhelming the central nervous system shutting all processes down immediately.
This fluid in motion is why you can see the bullet impact a deer if recoil doesn't make you lose the sight picture.
and BTW, once most folks think they know all there is, the learning process stops.
RR
I seen that happen to me, my son shot a spike with the exact same shot, just under the spine, this one however did not die, we had to shoot it again.
Theres definately something going on on impact but its not energy or shock, its more like pressure, hydraulic pressure more so.
shock is the wave ahead of a bullet that passes the materials sound barrier, air sound barrier is 1125 fps and is easily acheived by a bullet, but not in the body. The body which is close to water has a sound barrier of 4900 fps, a bullet will never cause a shock wave in the body. Its more like hydraulic pressure. And does cause some damage, more temporary than permanent but it does do damage.
KE has to be converted to see it real affects. and when converted to say watts you'll see its not enough to boil a cup of water.
Its not the KE thats killing its the work done by it. IE a bullet expanding and tearing tissue or the pressure it creates.