I will never use Rage broadheads again. I have not been on here for awhile but to update you guys I shot that buck on opening day that I lost and since then I shot a doe perfect broadside at 12 yards from groundblind with 70 pound draw and probably only got around 6 inches of penetration. Decent bloodtrail but it eventually ran out and I never found her. I waited awhile to look for her too. I will never use them again. Going back to good ole muzzys. Pisses me off to know I could have a buck and a doe already if I had used fixed blades.