WOW, as if i didn't have enough confidence in my spot on the public ground that i hunt. I ran into an older guy at the boat ramp last night and he said that in the last 7 years he had arrowed a 193 net 21 pt non typical and a 187 17 pt nontypical. can't wait for the first week of nov. , planning on taking off that week of work unless i go back to nites and i'll hunt the mid day