wolfen, you go tell that 6 year old that his t-ball trophy doesn' t mean anything. When you' re done with that tell a 12 year old with his first doe it isn' t a trophy and feel good about yourself doing it. Your right, to the general public they aren' t but how realistic is it to expect that everyone will play in the super bowl or shoot a 160 class deer? That is sure the way to get new hunters involved, have all of us with some experience degrade them for their lack of it.

Travis