iSnipe...Thanks for the pointers. I am moving to NC end of the month and that will be good for starting out in a new area to hunt. What I was asking is when I will start seeing them? I was lucky enough to have a friend who hunted the same public land for about 15 years and he "passed on" all of his spots he had hunted over the years. Its all the same corridor that the deer travel. I have seen quite a few deer and bagged a decent buck last year. Like I said I was wondering when I would start to see scrapes and rubs. I have not spotting any yet this season.