Hey Elkshot, You first want to check your knock point I usually set mine at 1/4" above square even though i' m shooting carbons. I' ve set up a couple of people this way and it has worked so far. Next make sure you are using the topmost pin for your shortest yardage. This might seem very elementary but when I first started bowhunting I used the bottom pin as my shortest yardage pin, Dumb Huh. Also set the prongs on your rest so that they are even with the plunger hole in your riser. If your knock point is right you shouldn' t have a problem with getting all your pins set up. Oh by the way you won' t be dissapointed by the Copper John I love mine.