I killed a buck that grossed 164 two years ago. Last year I killed one in the 135 range with a drop tine. It is a lot easier now to pass up smaller bucks, and I know I can kill does to fill the freezer. Actually it is a lot better knowing I have that trophy on the wall and I'm not pressuring my self to kill a trophy and when I see a nice buck in the 100-120 inch range, I can hope that if I pass on that deer, I might get a chance to kill him next year.