poor shots? If the bullet is tumbling in the air end over end I find it hard to blame the shooter. 2 different guns, with 1 changing from .50 to .45 cal also trying different powder charges and still getting crappy results. After 5 hrs of shooting, cleaning the barrel and letting it rest they shot $60 in bullets and targets looking like they were hit with a load of 00 buck shot. I blame the bullet unless you wanna blame the type of powder or 209 caps they were using also.