Even with the new ARs you are still seeing those traditional UP genetics? That sucks. We've got pretty good deer numbers around us, haven't seen too bad a winter kill the last two years, nor do the wolves seem to be as prevalant. I would hugely favor a 1 buck limit, but I don't see that happening any time soon. There's no question big deer could be grown, but the management practices, both privately and DNR-wise are sorely lacking for that to happen. The new antler rules are great, but with no registration, I see them having minimal affect.