Any one climb trees with out using a tree stand? I ran across a scrub Oak yesterday that I was able to safely get off the ground a bit. There were two branches at feet and chest level. With a ladder and a safety rope, I think I could get up a bit higher to a spot I could sit in. How high up should one be? The branch I was standing on was only about 4' so I don't think that would help a lot. The higher section was about 10'.