Well, I finally made it to the range today. Been too busy being retired! Hardest job I ever had!! Anyhow I took the disc elite .50 some T7 3f and 250 shockwaves w/suppied sabot. Swabbed after each shot w/alcohol/windex patch, both sides. then 2 dry patches (as per cayugad instructions from the past). Last yr I shot T7 2f. Used 90gr 3f this time. 2" high at 50meters, 1 in. group. Moved to 100m, another 1" group, 3shots. Then I got brave and tried at 150m. 11/4 apart, 6" below Poa. The I got really brave and took a shot at the 200m ram silhoute(sp). Boom-Clang!!! Seemed to be about a second between shot and impact!! 200m is a far piece across the real estate!! Now all I need is agood excuse if I miss Mr. Big this fall!!