Hey, what is the Sims or R3 you mentioned? I am going to pick up some Managed Recoil Loads in a couple days. Those coupled with the limbsaver slip on recoil pad should be more than enough to take the punch out of it, lol. I shoot free arm out of my ladder stand and this is the only reason why I desire to decrease the kick, but if I was in a box blind or still hunting with shooting sticks then I wouldn't worry about it. Thanks for the help guys. Oh, about how much do the Managed Recoil Loads cost for the 270, thanks.