Like I said the score was not something crazy, but when I got to him after he was down is what surprised me. He weighed 254 lbs field dressed, butcher said he had to be right at 300lbs live weight. The butcher said that he never weighs deer, but he had to put that one on the scale, because he had never seen one come in that size.The buck scored 161 7/8", the neck measured 22" and is not in rut. for some reference I'am 6',259lbs, first deer I could not drag out and load by myself