i use a turkey call while stalking, i see deer hangin with the turkeys all the time, and i think they will dismiss my walking on the leaves as a turkey..also i take sum antlers with me and make it as if i am rubbin a tree, if i get to loud, such as sliding down a steep hill to get down from a high spot. the antlers work good, as i have seen deer jus go back to eating insted of bolting, granit they were 60-80 yrds away at the time and i never could get close enough. gl