My buddy asked me the other day what I thought of the 7-30 waters cartridge. He saw a used contender for 450$(unscoped I think) and thought it was good deal. He doesnt handload. I told him that ammo would be hard to find ,and expensive if he did , and even if he started handloading, brass would still be hard to come by and expensive. To be polite, I told him to buy what makes him happy, but suggested he look at a used superblackhawk or smith in 44mag, since I think its head and shoulders above the waters for killing power, and ammo is much cheaper and readily available. I dont get the waters caliber at all, a 30-30 necked down to 7mm ? I can think of no reason why the 708 or mauser wouldnt be a 10X better choice , but that said, I have no idea what the point of chambering a CF rifle cartrige in a 12-14" handgun is? Seems like recoil and report would be unbearable ,and the loss of velocity would be substanical. How far can you shoot a hangun acuratly anyway? I know its his $ but I just was curiuos to what others thought?