I' m with you Art! I was shooting Gold Tips and was doing fine, or so I thought. Broke a string on my bow and could not get the beasts to fly right with the new string! I went back to 2216 beer cans and am not SORRY one bit. No more African Ebony Reed Wood for me! My beer cans weight right at 680 grains and I did not have to add a thing! Yea Haw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ted A. working under the KISS (keep it simple stupid) principle Young AKA COB