I tried it good stuff but too much $$$ for me . I started using 777 for the first time a few months ago and love it . But i also started using a .25acp conversion so i still get a small crud ring . They want 39.00 for BH around here and i don't shoot enough to make it worth paying the 20.00 haz mat fee to get it elsewhere . Shot my fist buck two days ago with my Encore , 777 and the .25 acp conversion so i am a happy camper .PLus walmart will drop 777 down to 8.00 -15.00 a pound in the next few months or so in our area , after the muzzleloader elk hunt ends . so i will buy a few pounds and stock up for next year . If you do a search on here you will see many threads on B H209 . some LOVE it and some like me think its over rated for $$$ . I find 777 just as easy to clean at the end of the day and its a good idea to let your barrel cool between shots , so you might as well swab your barrel .Also I did not like the seal ( or lack of ) i was getting with 209 primers and they are also hard on my breech plus .