grnmtn, i don' t think it will happen, even with the new survey they are takingt. from a biological standpoint, which is what we need to look at, we have a healthy herd, our 53% percent yearlings, according to lst years results, averaged 112.3 lbs. this age class of bucks, which is the most often measured in the northeast, is on average larger than most yearling deer in surounding states. their deer average dressed at 90-199, with antler beams of 8-11 mill. in diameter. ours have a diameter of 17. the biggest question that i have for you is how are you determining quality? the other 47% are pretty darn impressive for any place. if we are already meet, statewide, the definition of qdm, the next step is tdm, which means even fewer deer shot. do you realize that under a qdm plan, yes we MAY see more bucks, but that does not translate into a better opportunity to harvest a mature deer. this is what people are missing. any kind of research into qdm will tell you the same thing. heck, i had a qdma board member tell me this. logging has hurt us short term, i agree, but go back in a few years, and see how much sign you find. antler restrictions don' t work. it has been proven in article after article since the 1960' s. many states that have had these restrictions, have dropped them.i agree, without a thorough understanding of qdm and its consequences, plus what it will take to achieve the goals, qdm sounds good. bigger deer, sure! larger racks? bring it on! but, this comes at a price, harvest more does, increased competition for older age classed deer, reduced buck harvest in those zones( had wildlife biologists for qdm tell me that one), lesser chance of harvesting a buck in those areas. are you prepared to go through this? you are from the barton area, if i remember( could be someone else i am thinking of). how many guys do you hear stating that they don' t see any deer? for qdm, we have to increase the doe harvest. how do you think those guys are going to feel about that? posting will increase, even those promoting qdm recognize this, whether it is under a state mandated plan, or done privately. are you prepared to be shut out of your favorite area? where will you, and everyone esle shut out of that area, go? on unposted land. now, hunters are more concentrated in the open areas. how hard will it be to get a shooter then? too many people aren' t thinking this through, they see sat. tv programs, think this is how qdm is, looks easy, lets try it. without knowledge, complete knowledge of qdm, people should be patient, listen to both sides, then make a decision not based on horns.