hunter9022--I had a white colored string loop on first--I thought it had stretched a good bit. Then I got the camo braided crap you mentioned--you are absolutely right about that stuff stretching BIG TIME. In about 2 dozen shots it was already worse than the one I had replaced. I' ll see if I can find the PSE brand you suggested.

BTM--the 4-4.25" method (measurement?) might work for me too, I' ll keep that option open.