Right, But I have a encore magnum, and he has a encore pro hunter, arnt they pretty much the same gun? so we should be able to shoot the same thing, Mine is shooting great on that set up, hitting bulls at 100 yards, At 50 yards he was barely hitting the back stop it was 4ftx4ft. and bullets were all over the place, and sideways through the board, and we had rifle seated on sandbags, I told him to give it a good cleaning, and try it again, then we can try new ammo.