Your preachin to the choir here. I gun hunt up north and there is 0 deer left up there. There are twice as many bears as deer, and any local will tell you tons of wolf stories. Out of four guys in camp last year I saw three and the other guys saw nothing. Down here where I bow hunt I used to see deer every time out. This year I have been out 8 times and seen deer 3 times. Thats after EAB several years in a row because of "herd reduction." The DNR is worthless and ruining what was a wonderful tradition.