Oh the Thor is now my #1 favorite without a doubt!! I'm still going to shoot Powerbelts through out the years but right now, i really want more hunting experience with the Thors. After that im going to tackle to round ball performance. My brother in law found the whitemuzzleloader website and i was reading it and came across a white up about the .530 round ball and feeling comfortable with its performance of deer size game out to 175 yards. Eat that Toby! LOL.