Thanks fellas. I will let him know I appreciate all of the info. I am planning on shooting the leverevolutions in my savage/stevens bolt action 30/30 and I will try to get him to do so also. Thanks again. Another quick question is I am starting to reload, and would like to use like a speer type bullet for by rifle (the savage bolt) but have heard that at the velocities that a 30/30 gets I wouldn't get optimum expansion. Is this true or am I better off just reloading with the leverevolutions. I know the levers don't have a choice but with the clip is this feasible.