I bought two boxes of Remington yesterday. Will get back out there this week & see what happens. I bought a good recoil pad and was using it. I know I flinch some, but when I used the last two of the Remington shells I had, they weren't 1/2" apart at 100 yards and near the center. Same with the Nitrex. The first two were within 1/4" of each other, but off to the left 9".