Oh and i actually sent him the trail cam pics and the trophy shot so he had a pretty good idea of what it looked like. Hes done all of our mounts and is pretty consistent. Man that bucks neck was HUGE! i have a pic on my phone of my size 12 boots on his neck and there is an easy two inches on each side extra that went past the book. It looked like a damn horse and was kind of intimidating! haha