"So that chart shows that most WMU are 2 to 3 times over the goals set yet you can't figure out why breeding rates and regeneration has not improved significantly. "

Jim, those goals were "done away with" because pgc had absolutely no way of defending those ridiculous goals. If you see no problem with the deer density in the state running from only 5 to a ridiculous 17 dpsm ANYWHERE,...and 13 dpsm in the best areas of western Pa with mix of farmland reverting farmland and forested with VERY high cc, then Im afraid you dont know much about deer management. Also you state we ARE 2 to 3 times higher currently. Thats not the case. The last year depicted on that chart was 2003. This is 2009. Significant reduction has occurred in many of those wmus since 2003. Those are goals that cater 1000% to econuts running the show who want every inch of forest floor covered with trillium and every single stick of timber untouched, and very possibly appears to be where we are headed anyway.

Thanks for posting that BB. Anyone who can look at those ridiculous numbers and not shake there head are absolutely amazing in their tolerance for pure undiluted bullsquat.