me and my brother both have cyclones and love them,2 other guys we hunt with have tornados and they love them as well it really comes down to which one you like.shoot both and decide i think the cyclone has a little better trigger,and i like the benefit of an adj stock.as far as the stock any collapsable stock will make a little noise.to solve just put a small peice of velcro on top of the round portion of the stock and no more noise.