4evrhtn, you make the point! Because the rules were followed, not your bitchin and moaning about some 90% of some number who responded. The discussions were held it was passed. Now you are conspiracy theorizing about money and not listening. They did listen, you couldn't prove your point to the exclusion of Xbow. Period end. You don't like it change the system, don't attack the hunter.As far as PA blood hell I wore black and gold diapers my friend. I am from Pittsburgh, and recently transferred to Ohio. You lost, go get it back using the proper voting or using some legal channels that maybe your selfish points of view are heard . Because they (BOC) didn't vote your way they obviously were payed off , huh? Just that attack tactics that probably pissed em' off enough to vote against your little 90% of some number who cared ot respond bow organization. So now let's attack the hunters them selves, man that will get you a lot of support! Most of the people on here will compromise to some extent on game mangement plans, but when you start this crap about lazy, pay offs, non hunters etc. you do nothing but ,make it harder for anyone who is really listening to hear or act upon your message. Reorg boy and get the exclusion the right way. I say the majority of 900K hunters didn't care enough, didn't see a problem with inclusion. If the numbers were as vast and overwhelming about 'no way' as you guys keep spouting 90% 90% it would never have been passed and probably laughed at as the Atlal (spear) was when it was put up for a vote. If your saying PA has been bought and paid for when it comes to the PAPGC or BOC, then look at your state representatives and get the vote out and change the appointees and or your politicians. Do not, Do not blame the hunters, it is legal, not illegal, voted on passed and inlcuded in the 2009-2010 license year. Call me anything you want, it was discussed publicly twice at least in depth, emails and petitions sent, phone calls opinions were heard and a vote or actually 2 votes were made FOR INCLUSION! We challenged the system and won, your turn! Challenge the system if you guys truly are right and 90% of some number cares enough to vote out these on the take rapscallions then you have truly made the overall hunting populations voice heard. Otherwise you guys are just unhappy that your little boys club was not listened to so let's cry and kick at all the hunters who won the inclusion. Who had the voice that obviously was heard and enacted upon. Bad bad Xbow hunters!