I have used docs double doe and tinks #69. Browning Docs deer farm is only right down the road from me in Cortland Ohio or it could be Bazetta Twp. You should see some of the deer he has. He has huge bucks piebalds and all. And I mean HUGE. So when his bottle says dominate buck urine he means it, trust me.... lol!! But on a second note I have much better luck with the scent free approach. I hardly ever use any scents attractants covers or curioisty products.