i live and hunt in walker county. thanks for the info about the stand and im def going to read that reply on the forum Timbercruiser. i didnt mention either than im only 15 and i do pretty much everything for my hunting by myself my dad doesnt get into it like i do. im willing to put alot of effort into hunting and all the prep work that goes with it. thanks guys for the help and i hope if you dont mind to continue to help me out lol