Can you imagine how happy PA hunters would be if ARs had doubled the number of 2.5+ buck and doubled the number of 8 pts. as Alt predicted!! What do you think the PGC would be saying if 104K of the 122K buck harvested in 2008 were 2.5+ buck? The simple fact is that the PGC refuses to release any data on the rack sizes of 2.5+ buck shows that ARs did not come close to producing the predicted results.