BM: Please don' t take these coments the wrong way. Its not the MM' s fault you torque, its yours. Your string " stars" or what ever their called, will fall off the VFT' s also. I think you' ve already made up your mind to 86 the MM. Don' t dismiss the Pat DC until you try the 60lb' er. Pulling 60 don' t make you any less of an archer. If you have torque issues, both the Pats brace hights will help.