Sounds like I might luck out and catch them just right. My son-in-law and I will hunting the san jans the 18th - 27th. Will be my first time archery hunting for them and my sil's first elk hunt ever. Are you guys hunting NF land possibly wildernes area? Do archery hunters and muzzleloader hunters get along ok or is there anything I should know? Good luck to everyone chasing those great creatures. I can hardly wait