Lee, I thought folks were getting higher velocities using the same load volume in bh then 777. Maybe we are talking apples and oranges but I just assumed bh had the higher pressures which resulted in higher velocities. When I used 100 gr equiv of 777 and bh it sure seem like the bh kicked worse in my gun.maybe im assuming worse kick means more pressure and more speed. anyway that is some great shooting;on my best day i couldnt match that.