cyberbuck....do they have the market cornered? Well in a word....YES! PY is the authority, PY has been there since the beginning. A buck as awesome as Zaft' s buck went from being a potential million dollar buck as a PY record but then dwindled to nothing when the PY panel ruled it was not. So now it' s the Buckmaster' s record I hear? Who cares? But you make a good point...if you don' t like PY and their rules then make up your own club with it' s own rules but you will be hard pressed to ever carry the weight that PY does.