Ok my experince with rage. First of I have shot and killed many deer with these I am not bashing rage. I have switched arrows also. I had a ginormas buck in at 8 yd. Nothing between us but air. I drew and delivered the arrow. Perfect shot but only got about 15 inches of penatration. I hit high but I had to he was in close down hill and I was 20 ft up. I think the arrow hit the curve in the rib and followed it down. I lost my 150" but on what I would call a perfect shot. If given the same shot I would put the arrow in the same spot. Call it what you will. I lost confidence in the combo and am switching it up the year. I went to full metal jackets just looking for a good bh for them. Thanks I'll check out the slick tricks.