it's been a slow pic year for me so far, I have seen a really nice one though, not sure how big yet, possibly 180 range by the size of his frame. its been to far away in too low of light to see points though. planning on moving cams tomorrow to catch him. he hangs out with a 150 10 pt.., I also hunt a lot of public ground and have seen a couple that will go over 160 where i hunt at, however i'm not brave enough to put a trail cam up on the public ground. afraid it might grow legs