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Old 08-22-2009 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jbowersox
My opinion differs. Is that allowed? If not let me know, because it sure seems like a select few people are allowed to have an opinion here.

At some point in this theory the BOW's draw length HAS to be too long, and at some point it HAS to be too short for a person's structure. Our arm length does not change and the distance from the end of that arm and the eyes nose and mouth will not change. If that is the case, doesn't it stand to reason that there is a medium that is neither too long or too short? At some point the bowstring has to be so far past a person's nose that he has to turn backwards. At some point the bowstring has to be so far in front the shooter has to lean into the string. Don't you think there is a perfect medium that allows the shooter to bring the string back a median distance that allows him to maintain vertical alignment without reaching, turning, or leaning?

Another equation. A person is shooting a 28" bow with a 1" d loop and uses a long release which adds another 1" to the anchor position of his hand. The bow perfectly touches the shooters nose and this setup allows for good form and arm positioning. According to your theory, if he decided to get rid of the loop and shoot a shorter release he would have to shoot closer to a 29.5-30" draw length bow. Is that right? Correct me if I'm stating your theory wrong. Would the string not be 1.5-2" behind his nose and the point at which he had good form? Yes his arm position might be correct, I'll give you that, but there is no way to correct the string's position in relation to the face. According to this reasoning the measurements of our body must adapt to the measurement of the accessories we put on our string instead of adapting the accessories (the loop in my theory) on the string to match the measurement's of our body.

HERE is where the vast majority of coaches and I mean real coaches will disagree with you.The arm positioning and solid anchors with the release hand are much more important than where you secondary anchors are.Regardless of what the website you referred to tells you,that is not what coaches say.It is simple to get sight picture back,increase peep size.Head angle can vary as well,yes vertical to slightly into the string is accepted but most pros lean into the string pretty good with their loops.They wouldn't need to if they didn't use a loop. Another thing,when you bring the release hand back,it either goes down or wraps around your head,neither is good and both restrict backtension.


Lets look at the pictures off your website.

This looks MUCH better than the pic with the loop.Much more solid anchor on his face but his release is atleast 1/2" if not an 1" too long to be able to use any type of squeeze or backtension to fire the release.





Speaking of backtension,this draw length LOOKS to be long.No way to execute proper backtension.NO solid anchor at all on the face.Knuckle under the ear is not solid.You can also see his head is turned at a different angle in both pics.He references his eye.I say reference the bill of his hat.





The reason I say it LOOKS long in both pics but it may NOT be is because the other things I see.Look at the bow shoulder,it is riding up into his ear,not down in the correct slot.It is loaded up,not back.His bow arm angle is also pointed downward,it should be more at a T angle toward the target.If he corrected this,his draw length might be closer to correct.
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