Well Arthur, read into what I said how ever you want. When I said that I don' t give a hoot what they do, It' s true that I don' t give a hoot what they do on this topic, 65% or 80%, I don' t really care. You must be filling a little insecure yourself knowing that you are in the minority on this subject. By the way, I do have a clue what the club has done for bow hunting, they have made killing big antlered and big skull capped animals big money business. Oh, I can' t say that is all they have done, but what else are they known for. Huh, I can' t remember. My mind must be slipping me, you know, me being an selfcentered ingrate and all, and now I' m loosing my mind too. Let' s see who is for changing the rule. Chuck Adams and M.R. James for starters. If P&Y wants to stay a small private org., heck, that' s thier choice. But I beleive that they could do a heck of a lot of good for the sport if they had more money(more members), but until they except change, this selfcentered ingrate will watch from the side lines as they dwindle into an even smaller private org. Good hunting to all this fall, especially those with 80% let off bows