I tried the and did not like them. I shot awesome groups with them and were starting to cost money because I kept breaking them. Then I put the slick tricks on them. 20 yrds grouped with field points, 30 yrds again grouped with field points. At 40 yrds there was about a 12 inch drop. WTF. So I fletched 3 arrows with blazers and shot those with my slick tricks. Grouped with the field points. Even at 50 yards they still grouped with the field points. Needless to say I decided not to go with FOBS. I also thought they were too loud in flight. Not for everyone. They were fun to shoot though.