Not all states are passing out cull permits that easy. Got a buddy in Illinois that was having major problems with deer in his vineyard. Asked the state folks for a permit and they told him to build a fence. Guess those folks never sat down and calculated the time, money, materials, and effort to surround 20 acres of hilly ground with a deer proof fence. I've got some relatives who have spent hundreds of dollars and a lot of time just trying to deer proof a quarter acre garden, with mixed results. Don't really think its a natural state of things for there to be so many deer that they are causing noticeable damage to a given tract of land. The blame goes all the way around: farmers who post their land to hunting but then complain about crop damage, farmers who lease to people who just won't kill does, people whe lease large tracts of land and wont shoot does, and hunters who love the large numbers of deer and scream bloody murder at any attempt to actually regulate he deer herd.