I checked out the Vortex Viper in 3-9x40 and it's definately another consideration. I'm not concerned about the rings, they are top of the line Leupolds and should hold everything in place without any problems. I'm hoping to set up a pig hunt in the near future, possibly in Texas, and a friend is checking on a trip to eastern Washington or Oregon for antelope or coyote. I figure the .300 would work well for both. May be a bit of overkill, but it's what I have and I want to become proficient with it. It'll be a month or two before I'm in a position to buy the scope, but I'll let you know what I got and how it works. I really appreciate the sound advice and input from you forum members, Iv'e learned a lot about the optics, thanks guys-----