I just don't have the loot to buy a Zeiss. Iv'e got to buy a good scope for two different big bores and I'm allowing about $1000 to do it which will be more than enough, but not nearly enough to put Zwarovski or Zeiss on them. If I go with the Bushnell, and I'm leaning in that direction, don't they have those sun shade extensions for them? Like you see on the Muellers? I think they are a good idea, they work and I like the look. Thought I remembered hearing that on the forum--------