didnt have great success with it, or the remington (no success). start at the $150 mark and save the $50 as a downpayment. Tried about 5 different makers now and thats my advice. My personal entry point is $190. I've wasted more than that on junk and batteries for junk. I have 4 Leaf Rivers now 2 ir and 2 flash(all about $280) but there lots of good companies. Not to mention, I've sent 3 back for upgrades and stuff and their customers service was great.