after a second look at them they do appear larger, i use the x-calibur 4's on my baits, that picture is of the david fritts version, they may be a little different, they are a little higher, buy you a pack of the size "4" x-cal's, like i said before you can't walk by them W/O getting stuck,

they also appear to be a lot more durable than factory dressed hooks

the best ones i have ever seen were made by a guide on lake alltoona (mike bucca) he sold out ( to a company ) last time i spoke with him he mentioned that the man had passed and they are no longer available, he did give me the recipe but i don't need anymore hobbies